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User Information Welcome, Guest. Please login or register. Did you miss your activation email? Home Help Login Register. Author Topic: Alien and Predator height Read times. What height are they? I always thought the Predator was about 7ft and the Alien about 8ft. Anyone know? The Alien is generally referred to as being 8 feet, but it's impossible to be exact. Predator - dunno. About 7 feet I guess. With the Alien It depends on the way it is hold its head, horizontal, or vertical.
This is assuming it had a human host. They are taller than a 6 foot human. Not only that, we'd been recommended by Arnold, who was a dear friend, and we didn't want to let him down. Filming began in and the film was released on the big screen in The sidearms carried by the troopers are Desert Eagle handguns. In the novelization of the film, the Predator is very different from the creature that appeared in the movie.
In the book it is a shape-shifter, able to mimic any form it chooses from just the slightest physical contact, and even capable of dissipating entirely, vanishing and becoming part of the blowing breeze. Its basic form is a tall humanoid creature with crimson scaly skin and three-fingered hands. Its only weapons are a telescoping spear that it throws incidentally similar to the combistick from Predator 2 and a static spider web-like trap capable of shredding anything caught in it similar to the net fired by the Netgun in Predator 2.
Instead of a cloak, the predator uses its shape-shifting ability and chameleon-like skin to hide. The Predator is also able to possess any animal it chooses but not humans, one of the reasons it is so interested in them. Its blood is translucent and amber in color instead of green, although it still glows at night.
The Predator does not kill men for sport, but rather out of curiosity; the way it horrifically mutilates its prey is merely an attempt to study and better understand humans. It does however keep trophies taken from those that it kills on board its ship.
Adding to the problems, the suit had been built specifically for Jean-Claude Van Damme, a world karate champion. He was just off the boat from Brussels. He thought he was going to show his martial arts abilities to the world. So Jean-Claude comes in for his fittings. Remember the cloaking device? Beautiful effect in its day we made a red version [of the suit] because red is the opposite of green on the color wheel. It had been shot against green in the jungle. We got him back in at lunch and you could see his eyes through the rubber muscles of the neck and he's like, 'I hate this head.
I hate it. Hate it. Blain's minigun "OI' Painless" is a handheld M which was modified for handheld use with an M60 handguard assembly installed beneath the barrels and a rear pistol grip. Mac's weapon is an M60E3. Award-winning Makeup FX artist Steve Johnson, who led the original Predator suit build for Boss, confirmed Mahan's take on things: "We have this meeting and we're sitting around a board table and it's the usual suspects.
It's all of the executives. With great pomp and ceremony, McTiernan comes in and slams down a bunch of designs that have already been done by a production designer, and they were awful. They said, 'Here's what we want you to make.
It was virtually physically impossible to do. I told them it wouldn't work. The final design featured an insectoid head and tusks extending from the mandibles, but was otherwise basically humanoid in physiology, enabling it to be portrayed by a performer in a suit, who could walk unassisted by wires or harnesses. It was a low-tech approach, but, in this instance, the best solution to a specific set of problems.
Added Stan Winston, "'Man in a suit' only denotes the technology that got you there. As long as it doesn't look like a man in a suit, it doesn't matter if that's the technology you use to get there. Arnold Schwarzenegger, Carl Weathers, Shane Black and Bill Duke got terribly sick from bad water because the filtration system at the hotel were they were staying in Mexico during filming had broken down and the hotel staff failed to tell them several days after it broke down and the water in the hotel was bad.
When they filmed the sequence which Billy tells Dutch that something is in the tree, Arnold Schwarzenegger and the cast raced to the bathroom when John McTiernan called "Cut! Stunt director Craig R. Baxley made his directorial debut with the film Action Jackson , which was produced by Joel Silver who also produced this film.
Arnold Schwarzenegger stated in an interview that he decided to the movie because he had always wanted to do a movie like The Magnificent Seven In the novelization of Predator, Mac is caucasian and both he and Blain are quite racist towards Dillon and the Hispanic locals.
The crew would chop down leaves, and re-plant them in front of the camera, for some shots. The "Predator-vision" was created using visual effects, and a heat-vision camera. Not everyone at the shop shared Stan Winston's high opinion of the Predator project. The attitude at the shop was that those of us on Predator were on the 'bastard' show, and that The Monster Squad was the really cool show to be on.
We were the redheaded stepchildren of the studio at that time. But, hey, heard of The Monster Squad lately? Seen any 'The Monster Squad versus Alien' sequels? It's understandable why everybody was excited about The Monster Squad; but even though the movie did attract a cult following it wasn't a massive hit, while Predator turned out to be phenomenal.
John McTiernan had been in the middle of his location shoot in Mexico when production had come to a halt, due to problems with the alien creature suit that had been built by Boss Film Studios. Although Boss had objected to the creature design signed off on by John McTiernan and Joel Silver - recognizing that its execution would be problematic - the company had delivered it, as contracted.
As Boss had predicted, the design, which looked spectacular in maquette form, was nearly impossible to realize as a full-size suit worn by a performer. Leg extensions and a third leg joint indicated in the maquette prevented the performer from walking on his own two legs. Instead, he had to be put inside a harness and hung from wires mounted to an overhead boom arm, with puppet legs extending below him. The time-consuming setup was particularly impractical in the dense Mexican jungle.
The original suit just didn't fit the action requirements. When the Predator is ambushed by a mud covered Dutch, it panics and starts firing "in all directions" at random uncertain of where he is, just like Billy said The Predator did to Jimmy Hopper's men before he killed them and skinned them alive.
The theatrical trailer for Predator featured music from James Horner's compositions for Aliens The specific music used can be found on the Aliens soundtrack as Track 01 - Main Titles. The trailer also features unfinished, basic visual effects depicting magenta-colored heat signatures on some of the characters.
On the show, Ventura kept commentating and bragging to Vince McMahon that he was the leading role in the movie and not Arnold. He did this obviously to stroke his ego as he was playing a heel bad guy in the WWF. His part was ranked no higher than fifth on the list.
Predator is an American-Mexican co-production film. Arnold Schwarzenegger and Bill Duke previously appeared together in another 20th Century Fox action film, Commando Duke went on record in an interview that he got along with Arnold Schwarzenegger when they worked together on that film. Apart from this film, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Sonny Landham have something else in common: they both co-starred with Sylvester Stallone in prison movies.
Dutch was born on January 13th and is 39 in the film and Dillon was born on February 15th and is also 39 and is a month younger than Dutch. Supposedly, Jerry Goldsmith was originally approached to score the film, but was unavailable. Several weeks of greenscreen shooting on a stage in Los Angeles followed the three-month shoot in Mexico, enabling the filmmakers to pick up some of the more difficult Predator action shots in the controlled environment of a stage, then composite those elements into location plates.
Howard Berger was assigned the job of taking the Predator suits and heads home after each day of greenscreen filming to dry them out. And every once in a while, I'd think: 'I'm driving around with the Predator! Hey, anybody want to see what I have in the back of my car? The Walther PP pistol used by Anna is likely intended to stand in for the Makarov PM pistol, which looks somewhat similar and would be appropriate for a guerrilla force being supplied by the Soviet Union.
When Dutch's right shoulder is wounded when the Predator shoots him with the shoulder cannon, the Predator doesn't shoot Dutch in his right shoulder but shoots at Dutch's M16 with an underslung M grenade launcher. If the Predator had shot Dutch in the right shoulder, Dutch would have lost his right arm. In February , with the new Stan Winston Studio Predator suit completed, the production company assembled in Palenque, a Mexican archeological site located just north of the Guatemalan border, to shoot the one-on-one battle between Dutch and the Predator.
We got down there, and what was meant to be two and a half weeks of reshoots ended up being nearly three months of reshoots! It went on and on. Despite its inauspicious beginning as a call and a favor to a friend, Predator remains one of the shows and characters of which Stan Winston is most proud.
And he's basically a man in a suit. I think one of the reasons that the characters that have come out of this studio are so memorable is because they are not about the technology. We could do it with a low-tech tool, so we used a low-tech tool.
That doesn't mean there wasn't a great deal of technology that went into the Predator, as well. But we combined all of the tricks - high-tech and low-tech - to create this organic Predator character. When the Jungle Hunter is cleaning his trophy skulls, the one on the right belongs to Mac, due to the hole and the scorch marks on it caused by the Jungle Hunters plasma caster when the Jungle Hunter killed him.
When Billy is finding the skinned bodies and you hear jungle animal sounds, you can briefly hear the clicky Predator noise. The original plan for the movie was to have several Predators as adversaries. This didn't occur until Alien vs. Predator , and later in Predators the presence of multiple Predators in Predator 2 being a mere cameo. Arnold Schwarzenegger was offered the title role but turned it down to do Terminator 2: Judgment Day and Jesse Ventura took the role.
Throughout the film Richard Chaves' character is referred to as "Pancho"; yet the English subtitles on the video disc and the credits spell his name "Poncho". Looking back, Alec Gillis recalls a turning point in crew morale when Stan said: 'Listen, guys. I will never strap a production with a one-year build schedule. That's not fair to them. These people are trying to make movies, and they are trying to do it in a timely fashion.
I'm always going to be as flexible and accommodating of that as I can be. Why Predator? But his instincts also told him that Predator was going to be great, which shows his good judgment of material. The arcade game Alien vs. Predator features a character named Dutch Schaefer as an homage to the character in the film.
Additionally, Dutch Schafer in the game has a mechanical arm and is said to be a cyborg, likely a reference to Schwarzenegger's starring role in the Terminator series, particularly the second film which features a famous scene where Schwarzenegger strips the skin from his left arm, revealing the robotic structure beneath.
In the scene where Mac crushes the dead scorpion under his boot, when the Predator picks up the scorpion in his palm. His bio-mask thermals makes the scorpion look similar to a xenomorph facehugger. The film's iconic score was used in numerous movie trailers including Ghost in the Machine and Blind Vision Carl Weathers came onboard because John McTiernan wanted an actual actor to work against Schwarzenegger.
The director had to fight to get a quality actor in the role. The first week of shooting was a nightmare at times due mostly to the crowded jungle conditions caused by the presence of Mexican crewmen with little to nothing to do.
The local union had overstocked the production with unnecessary workers, so John McTiernan eventually sent half of them packing with pay. Some sources give Dillon's first name as George. While his first name is never mentioned in the film, the novel states that his first name is Al. The song that Blain plays on the stereo is "Long Tall Sally" by Little Richard and runs almost a minute longer than the long edit from This is going to kill us!
During a confrontation scene with Dillon, Dutch mentioned that his crew were "not expendables". As of , none of the actors who played Dutch's crew appeared in any of the three Expendables film unlike Arnold Schwarzenegger who appeared in all of them.
In the movie, Dutch and his team's full names are never said in the movie. Dutch's real name is Alan Schaefer. Dillon's first name is Al. Poncho's real name is Jorge Ramirez. Mac's surname is Eliot. Billy's surname is Sole. Blain's surname is Cooper and Hawkin's first name is Rick. Initially, the mask design was a mechanical interpretation of the creature's face.
To avoid giving away the look of the creature too early in the film, Stan Winston Studio changed the mask design to a simpler, more 'tribal' look. The mask on the left was later used in Predator 2 "The concepts were identical," Winston said, "and yet, Rick was nominated in makeup and I was nominated in visual effects. What that points out, I think, is that there is really no way to categorize what we do. No one form of technology defines the characters that we've developed over the years.
What is it? Is it makeup? Is it special effects? Is it visual effects? Sometimes it is all of the above. Whatever best serves that character, that's what we use. Our starting point has always been to ask ourselves, 'Who is this character?
The attack on the compound was shot by a 2nd unit director, but John McTiernan wasn't fond of its "stuntman" style consisting of "static shot after static shot" punctuated by explosions.
They had to slow the barrel down for the film because in reality it spins so fast that it doesn't photograph well. A person could really only manage to carry roughly six seconds worth of ammo.
It's nonsense, but, it's a movie, so who knows. There's also a lb battery behind the person firing it. The shot of Dutch Schwarzenegger and his team crawling with the binoculars was accomplished with a crane and a remote control camera, and it pissed off the studio because it took "three hours to get the damn shot. They initially attempted to use real heat vision cameras to capture the Predator's vision, but not only was it a large piece of equipment with an umbilical that would only stretch four feet from the van, but there was also an even bigger problem.
Consequently, people were the same temperature as the background, and they were perfectly camouflaged. John McTiernan had to go behind the studio's and producers' backs to try some tests at a video production house. They created the effects digitally and were accepted once he proved their value. The big tree used in the end confrontation is made out of concrete.
The only scene where anyone was actually hurt on the film is the bit where Dutch slides down the hillside and falls into the river. The stuntman apparently threw his knee out while falling. Well, there was a second injury.
I fell out of a tree. I was too embarrassed to admit I was hurt. In an effort not to get sick while filming in Mexico John McTiernan instead went without much eating. What did you see? At , Dutch Arnold Schwarzenegger reveals that he knows they are being hunted by saying, "Don't! Leave it He didn't kill you because you weren't armed No sport. Arnold Schwarzenegger's cigar wouldn't light for the credits sequence, so they used optical effects to make it appear lit. The 20th Century Fox logo is stretched because they wouldn't let him use anamorphic widescreen due to the film's opticals.
The original creature design was by all accounts terrible, but when they brought on Stan Winston the effects wizard went away for a week and returned with the design seen in the final film. When it came time to shoot Winston also brought a team of young guys operating individual controls to make the creature's face move. John McTiernan feels there's a fascination among audiences about seeing guns being fired, so he added the scene of the remaining team members firing blindly into the jungle for a couple minutes.
All of this is sort of a moral separate peace here, and in order to do it I set up the circumstance where there were no human beings in front of the guns.
In fact the point of all the firing was, as the man says as soon as they stop shooting, 'We hit nothing. Which was the exact opposite of what believe I was being hired to sell. The wild boar that Mac killed was fake. John McTiernan doesn't read subtitles when watching foreign films.
I don't pay attention to what they say. I pay attention to what they look like when they say it and how it sounds. The production company had to take out an insurance policy on Sonny Landham Billy due to his behavior! The other people on the set were afraid of him. This is the second movie in 10 years in which Carl Weathers plays a soldier, after Close Encounters of the Third Kind which was also about extraterrestrials. The opening credits sequence was filmed in Puerta Vallarta, Mexico.
John McTiernan and cinematographer Donald McAlpine had to plead the studio to let them film somewhere with actual jungle foliage, and they were granted permission. Regarding Jesse Ventura, John McTiernan was surprised to discover he was "a lot brighter than he pretended to be" and "truly astonished" when he heard Ventura was elected governor of Minnesota years later.
It was announced in April that the original Predator writers were suing Disney's 20th Century Studios. According to The Hollywood Reporter, Jim and John Thomas, who wrote 's Predator, have filed a lawsuit against 20th Century Studios over the copyrights to the sci-fi action classic.
The Thomas brothers allegedly filed the suit to exploit a copyright termination provision in order to recover the copyright to their literary material. Disney's 20th Century Studios filed a countersuit against them to keep the franchise under its ever-expanding film roster.
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